So here is my request: I would like you to view this anonymous WWS (which I shall link below) and comment on the healing section if you would be so kind. Specifically I'm looking for a) 2 or so things each healer did wrong and b) 2 or so things each healer did right. No right or wrong answers or anything I'm just looking for opinions to better myself and perhaps our other healers. It's "just Kara" (Aran/Illhoof/Prince/Spite/Nightbane) if that helps your review at all. Also, the damage you see from the healers is likely from Spite where we had a few mistakes and were very close to the timer so we just did some wacky stuff to avoid a second attempt.r
SO! Here is the WWS.
a) 2 (or so) things each healer did wrong
b) 2 (or so) things each healer did right
The healers are Dew (resto druid), Nimbus (resto druid), Terpsichore (IDS priest).
EDIT: As Brierly noted in the comments it might help to know each healer's stats. Dew has 1850 +heal and ~230mp5, Nimbus has 1430 +heal and ~180mp5, Tepsichore has 1680 +heal and ~170mp5.
Thanks!
Monday, August 18, 2008
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First you need to look at their armory numbers at the same time you observe WWS. I am a resto druid currently raiding with the same make up you have (2 restos and a priest) The priest is just starting in Kara so they end up much lower on the healing charts then the druids. I don't know where they all are on gear and +heal/mp5 so I am not sure how accurate any advice I give may be.
What everyone did right and kudos cause it certainly doesn't look like that on my groups wws.
1. Your healers and tanks stayed alive. This means any issues that may be happening in your healer team are honestly minor ones at this point. If anything you may be having the same issues we are which is overgeared and slightly bored healers that throw renews and blooms around just to have something to do which messes with the OH numbers.
2.If your healers are already using Grid and/or Healbot try to get them to all load the same one (all healbot or all grid). These add ons don't talk well to each other, but if all healers are on the same one they wil let you know if the priest got their heal off first so you can perhaps stop your cast before your entire rejuv or greater heal ends up going into the OH numbers.
Things I would do differently
1. It looks to me like the healers need to discuss concrete assignments first. From the readings in individual fights there are a lot of heals being thrown by 2 healers at once so whoever casts fastest ends up with a good heal while the other healer ends up with a pretty massive overheal (like I said above Grid/Healbot help with this as well). It looks like your MT is the pally and your OT is a warrior/feral druid. All your healers are putting @50% of their heals on the pally and if everyone is properly geared for back door Kara then you will end up with a lot of overheals since the pally shouldn't need 3 dedicated healers. Some of the healers may do less overall healing if they are put on raid healing instead of tank healing but damage/healing meters are a tool not a contest.
2. I am not sure if Nimbus was on raid heal, at which point the spell rotation looks about right, but if he/she was working on tank/raid heal then they need to use regrowth a little more. you can refer them to http://www.resto4life.com/2008/03/09/regrowth-the-new-raid-heal/ If they are someone who like to parse the numbers.
Basically your healing team looks great to me. Bosses died and the group didn't. Looks like your team also doesn't have to sufer with a couple of dpsers that would rather beat each other on dps charts then watch Omen.
Druids. Why did it have to be druids? And two of them! Bah, this is something I know little about.
I'll stick with Terpsichore, your Spirit priest. First off, with an average of 4,725 a Greater Heal we're probably looking at around 1,750 Bonus Healing -- if we assume a 23/38/0 Holy priest with Spiritual Healing and 3/5 Empowered Healing. That's pretty impressive for someone still in Karazhan.
If he had downranked it would have been a much lower average, which would have left me unable to determine his Bonus Healing. However, a priest that casts almost 40% of his direct heals as Flash Heal is definitely not downranking. This is a tactic he should really learn to acquire, since it'll allow him to be much more effective as a healer and more efficient. Flash Heal is a low Health Per Mana (HPM) spell and benefits from only 43% of our Bonus Healing; downranking when you don't need a heal in under two seconds will make him significantly more efficient. I typically use a rank 1 Greater Heal, but many healers prefer 4. This may have explained why he required not one but two Innervates that night -- despite having two other dedicated healers in a raid, a shadowfiend, and a Mana Spring totem!
Typically I find priests Flash Heal a lot for two reasons. First, they don't know about downranking or why they should do it. Secondly, they want to make sure that they get on the healing meters; Greater Heal is a slow, ungainly spell that often leaves priests overhealing a lot or having to cancel a spell because a quicker Flash of Light or Chain Heal beat them. So, they Flash Heal to make sure that they beat the paladins and shamans to the punch. Either way, they're both very bad habits.
Also, a staple talent acquired in any build that incorporates the Discipline tree is Inner Focus. I'm going to assume that he picked it up because, frankly, there are few other talents that a Improved Divine Spirit priest would pick up along the way. However, I don't see a single use of the ability, which is disappointing. He used Prayer of Healing a number of times, which is a costly healing spell; a single use of Inner Focus would have allowed him to cast this spell for free, saving a significant amount of mana. Furthermore, having Inner Focus allows a priest to spend more time out of the Five Second Rule (5SR), which is a basic rule every priest should learn.
Your priest Renews and he casts it a lot. This is awesome, especially for helping tame spike damage or bringing people to full who don't need an immediate direct heal. We went into Hyjal Summit recently and had four to five Holy priests in the raid because we were down other healing classes; however, I checked on our tanks and at most I saw two Renews on them. Which is disappointing! This is something that I'm still working on myself, so hats off to Terpsichore!
Also, I know it should be two good things and two bad things, but I just went back to the main healing chart and noticed something. Your priest had 41% overhealing, which is to be expected with two druids in the party and as an Improved Divine Spirit single-target healer. A little practice will reduce that, but it's not horrible. However, he had 19 decurses as opposed to your Protection paladin's 46. That's not good. I know that many paladins prefer to Cleanse themselves quickly and do it without even thinking, but I don't think that all 46 were on himself. With only other person capable of removing magical debuffs, Terpsichore should probably be higher; your Protection paladin probably shouldn't be decursing other people.
Anyways, just my thoughts and insights. If clarification is needed, let me know!
@Brierly- If this helps at all, Terps has around 1700 +healing, Dew around 1900 and Nimbus around 1400. And personally I'm not convinced Regrowth is very good for tossing in a normal 2 (or usually 1) tank healing situation especially with a direct heal healer (Priest/Pally/Shaman) on that target. Same with raid healing, why Regrowth when a single Lifebloom does the trick excellently? Just my thoughts.
@Cynra- Your thoughts seem to be pretty much in line with mine. Now how to pass this along without looking like a bitch. That's the hard part.
Unfortunately it goes against my weird sense of morality to delete comments but if you're going to plug your own blog while simultaneously lambasting what I write/do on my own I'd just step back and like... not do that. Thanks.
@Awlbiste, the commenter "Muckbeast" (Cambios) seems to be either a troll or at the very least someone who enjoys baiting people - he did the same thing over at Lume the Mad's blog.
If I were you I would delete his post. But up to you.
Regarding your original question - bosses were downed, healers stayed alive and kept people alive (I saw very few deaths). I don't think you can improve on that :D
I can't see anything Dew did wrong other than perhaps not using HT enough in conjunction with NS. However, there might not have been many situations that called for such a tactic.
With Nimbus, it's possible that he/she was overusing lifebloom. However, lifebloom rolling could have helped for efficiency being the lesser-geared of the two druids, especially if Dew and Terps were healing in a manner that augments the HoT-rotation style of healing Nimbus seemed to employ.
Simple response: It depends on the healing strategy, the encounter, the situations and the gear.
If the priest was the main tanks primary healer then I fully agree with Nimbus' decision to use lifebloom above either regrowth or rejuv. I have just found regrowth helpful on the boss fights when I am on MT or OT healing as well as tossing LB on the raid group.
I think both of your druids definitely have a good head on their shoulders when it comes to tranquility which is kind of a druids heal of last resort. I usually use it when both myself and the tank are taking damage and I don't have time to heal both and a LB will not cut it.
I am not sure what Dew's job was on Netherspite, but usually for that fight resto druids usually get put on group healing and rolling LB's on the main tank, especially since you also had a priest to heal. In that particular fight I would actually have expected him to be throwing more LB's around but it looks like he did regrowth and rejuv instead (If he's MT healer then ignore that)
I want to applaud Nimbus for doing so well in relation to Dew. Especially with the +heal/mp5 diference. Lol and I am glad someone else gave you priest information.
As for bringing it up...well first make sure everyone looks at the WWS report if you can. I know for me, since I run with a similarly geared resto druid, we have a friendly competition concerning our wws scores which have made both of us better healers.
Also if they like to read blogs send them to 4healz, resto4life and leafshine. You have a great blog but they may appreciate reading someone they aren't connected to through their guild.
Also create a guild heal channel and hold a meeting :). We have a monthly healer meeting @ an hour before our one and only 25 we do each week and it really helps us out. Of course if you have a really large guild with multiple run times that probably isn't feasable.
Looks like you had a very successful night. Hats off too you. A very strong healing team that appears to work well together. When we use this make up in our runs the stats look very much the same. The priests are always lower due to the druids hots so I definately wouldnt worry about that. The priest are about those big heals when they count and due to the fact that no one died, that was definately happening. So, good job.
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